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39: The Art of Flexible Thinking and Creating a Fun Approach to Mental Wellness with Poppy Jamie

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Ask any life coach, mystic, or spiritualist and they’ll tell you that the key to happiness lies within you. It’s easy to blame the outside world and the events that unfold around you for all your stress, anxiety, and overall unhappiness. And if you truly want to change your situation, you must start by changing your thoughts. But how can you reach that level of happiness when you’re constantly faced with the weight of the world?

Today, Zuri sits down with the one and only Poppy Jamie. Poppy is one of the world’s leading entrepreneurs, podcast hosts, and speakers within the mental wellbeing and mindfulness space. She’s also the author of “Happy Not Perfect,” and founder of the mindfulness app by the same name. Poppy and Zuri embark on a deep discussion on how you can create a happy and full life, despite the imperfections life throws at you.

From tips to loosen up your thinking, redirecting your energy, and how to commit to taking difficult actions so that you can adopt healthy habits that support a more fulfilling life - this conversation is one you don’t want to miss. Poppy shares four steps to mastering the art of flexible thinking, how you can respond and cater to your internal alarm system while knowing you’re on the right path, and how you can reflect on your past emotional burdens while holding compassion for yourself. Tune in and join Zuri and Poppy for an introspective journey into happiness, compassion, and mental wellness.

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Episode Resources: Happy Not Perfect App | Happy Not Perfect Book | Happy Not Perfect Website

A Closer Look at the Episode:

  • [2:04] Why Poppy creating the Happy Not Perfect app

  • [4:22] The experience you can expect from the app

  • [6:09] What is the art of flexible thinking

  • [9:38] The four steps to the art of flexible thinking

  • [14:47] How to solve a problem by changing your energy

  • [16:09] Catering to your internal alarm system so you’re on the right path

  • [23:14] Choosing the most compassionate way forward

  • [25:29] How to commit to taking difficult action

  • [27:21] Tools for strengthening your ability to take action

  • [30:59] How to discover and reflect on past emotional burdens safely

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Zuri Hall is an Emmy award-winning TV host (Access Hollywood, American Ninja Warrior) and is the executive producer & host of this millennial-focused podcast that will empower women to avoid “best life burnout” through candid conversation, expert panel discussions, and real-life, human interest stories from everyday women.

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