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46: Exploring Alternative Routes to Motherhood

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It is 2021 and there are as many roads to motherhood as there are shows on Netflix. The many empowering and alternative options to motherhood are proof of how far we’ve come. From adoption to surrogacy, and everything in between, women now have the choice to have kids at many stages of their lives. But with so many choices available comes the overwhelming task of navigating it.

As Zuri explores her options on her journey to eventual motherhood, she wanted to hear from a pro. Someone who has knowledge and experience in this arena of modern-day motherhood. Enter Josephine Atluri. Josephine is a highly sought-after fertility and parenting mindfulness coach. She’s also a mom of seven kids via IVF, adoption, and surrogacy. In this episode, Josephine shares a realistic look through her journey into motherhood. She shares important advice for overcoming emotional obstacles, giving women permission to sit with their feelings be it good, bad, or ugly.

This is an incredible episode whether you’re planning on having kids in the future or not. Tune in as Josephine shares her story and advice on the many roads to modern-day motherhood and how you can navigate the obstacles along the way.

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A Deeper Look Int The Episode:

  • [6:41] Josephine’s journey to seven kids

  • [11:47] The emotional journey to motherhood

  • [15:31] A realistic look at the IVF process

  • [17:51] Overcoming emotional and physical obstacles and going through your journey to motherhood from a healthy place

  • [22:04] The different resources to turn to for help dealing with negative self-talk

  • [23:53] How Josephine empowers women as a fertility coach

  • [28:32] Josephine’s experience and journey with surrogacy

  • [33:05] Giving yourself permission to sit with your feelings, both good and bad

  • [38:32] Josephine’s advice for women on their journey to pregnancy, IVF, adoption, and surrogacy

  • [43:10] Resources for women on their journey to motherhood

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Zuri Hall is an Emmy award-winning TV host (Access Hollywood, American Ninja Warrior) and is the executive producer & host of this millennial-focused podcast that will empower women to avoid “best life burnout” through candid conversation, expert panel discussions, and real-life, human interest stories from everyday women.

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