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36: On Making Friends in Your 30s, Body Positivity, and Prioritizing Wellness in Your Relationships

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Today, Zuri is joined by the ladies of the Groupchat (Cleo + Veronika) for a super fun, super chill convo on building up the various pillars of wellness in their lives.

The Groupchat is covering it all, from tarot readings to mental health and the Olympics, to discussing their views on body positivity (and how f*cked up the BMI chart is!!). To the importance of setting boundaries with lovers + friends, to the best ways to make friends when you’re over 30 (hint: just ask + bring wine!).

The ladies also share their favorite apps for physical wellness, what TV show’s their currently bingeing on, and their favorite recipes when throwing down in the kitchen!

If you’re ready for a good time, hit play and get ready for a hilariously honest convo with Z and her close friends!

Share this episode with a friend NOW + let us know your favorite part of the convo: @ZuriHall and @HotHappyMess

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Meet Cleo:

It’s your girl Cleo (sometimes known as Clee). I’m a saucy Gryffindor from Toronto with probably the biggest hair you’ve ever seen. I co-own an all-female DJ booking agency and I’m the Director of Brand Partnerships at Coco & Cowe, which basically means I just get sh*t done — I also happen to work with my best friends; highly recommend btw.

Zuri and I met 6 yrs ago when I cold-emailed her and happened to be headed to LA for a visit. I asked her if she wanted to be my friend and the rest was history!

Connect with Cleo: @CleoEllis_ | Twitter | Podcast

Meet Veronika:

Hi, I’m Veronika! I’m a born & bred proud New Yorker (BK, baby) — and a Jewelry Designer and Founder of Ora Ana. I met Z back in 2010 when we may or may not have been in the same girl group — (Yes, there were “I’m The Beyonce!” fights).

We were definitely frenemies who couldn’t stand each other… but the Universe wanted us together because we eventually realized we are so alike & can’t help but laugh nonstop when we’re together. Now she’s stuck with me! ;-p

Connect with Veronika: @Veronika_Payne | @OraAnaOfficial | Ora Ana Jewelry

Follow @ZuriHall and @HotHappyMess on Instagram to keep the good vibes going! :)


Thank you for the love it truly keeps us going! ❤️



The HMM FB group is a safe space for our community -- it’s where can talk about our Hot Happy Mess, share tips, tricks, dish on the latest episodes, talk all things Bridgerton (or whatever show you’re currently bingeing), chat with Zuri and the ladies of the Groupchat and so much more!!!

We welcome multi-cultural, inclusive individuals who identify as female/femme/women, non-binary, trans, genderqueer, agender, or any combination of the above! – who appreciate sharing & celebrating one another experiences and learning about others’ stories + POVs (especially BIPOC + Queer).

We’re women of all races + backgrounds, united by one mission: living our lives as fully, happily & mindfully as we can.

In the HHM Crew, we value Community. Kindness. A Work Hard, Play Hard Mentality

(she likes to laugh, have fun, and maybe have one vodka shot too many after a long day of getting her AlphaBabe on).

We can't wait for you to start sharing your stories, not just with one another, but also with Z! Remember, this is a safe space, so no topic is off-limits. We just want us to have FUN! We want this space to feel like a long-distance brunch. Y'know? So grab a drink, a snack, pull up a chair, and let's all virtually hang!

Recent episodes: if ya feel like bingeing!

ICYMI: Listen to Episode 34: How To Slay Your Anxiety ICYMI: Listen to Episode 33: Zuri Hall on Protecting Your Peace + Doing a Year of Yes

ICYMI: Listen to Episode 27: Screw Finding Your Dream Job! It’s Time for Your Dream Life!

ICYMI: Listen to Episode 16: Zuri Hall on Egg Freezing, Building Friendships, and What to Do When He Cheats

ICYMI: Listen to Episode 12: The Best Sex Ever Episode (What You’ve Been to Shy to Ask!!)

ICYMI: Listen to Episode 9.5: The Craziest Single Years Sh#t We've Ever Done

ICYMI: Listen to Episode 9: ...How to Be Single & (Not Just Pretend to) Love It

Go back to the beginning --- ICYMI: Listen to Episode 1: How to Be Happy


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  • Join as a Podcast Guest — We are committed to telling + sharing diverse stories + POVS. Real Stories, from Real Women! (And yes we want men to be a part of the conversation - they’re just not leading it, often. lol — drop a line!)


If you loved this podcast episode, you’ll also love our first episode in our Protect Your Peace Series: Episode #1: How To Be Happy

Come listen, laugh, and maybe even learn a lil something’ -- with new episodes of Hot Happy Mess dropping every Monday on the iHeartRadio App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts!

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Zuri Hall is an Emmy award-winning TV host (Access Hollywood, American Ninja Warrior) and is the executive producer & host of this millennial-focused podcast that will empower women to avoid “best life burnout” through candid conversation, expert panel discussions, and real-life, human interest stories from everyday women.

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